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#1 by astoness , Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:31 am

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A few pics of Smith Street, Hockley…I was hoping to find one of the Malt Shovel at No.103
and I have asked for Mikes help on this. By 1955 the pub had been demolished and the
ground took over… First 2 are of the same building taken at different times…
on the opposite corner you can just see a bit of the Queens Head pub.


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#2 by astoness , Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:33 am

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#3 by astoness , Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:35 am

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Smith Street at Harford Street , also showing Smith Street school…
The Malt Shovel pub was this side of the school and as you can see it's no longer there.


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#4 by astoness , Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:38 am

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smith street coutryard 1960


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#5 by astoness , Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:41 am

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The position of the Malt Shovel pub...thanks to Mike for the map.


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#6 by Voltman , Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:02 am

Thanks Mike,

I am just looking at my own old Godfrey map of 1913 and that building shows quite clearly.


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#7 by Voltman , Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:03 am

I have a couple of points to raise regarding the first two photos in post No.1

Why does the road sign in both shots say "Smith Tree" despite the shots being taken a different times?
Why is it black with white lettering?
What is the name of the road in which the photo is taken from?


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#8 by astoness , Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:15 am

hi volty....the really old cast iron street signs were white on black background as a rule

just a couple of letters missing from the word street and were not replaced..

caption does not say what street pic was taken from so then we have to look for clues ..we know we can just see the edge of the queens head pub on the opposite corner so a kellys look up will solve that one...think it must be taken from either hockley or well st...


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#9 by mikejee , Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:23 pm

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The picture of the shop with signs on side must have been the one on the corner of
Hockley St/Smith St as marked in red on map, as this is the only corner with a narrow
building on the right of the shop followed by an entry


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#10 by Voltman , Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:08 pm

I can believe that Mike, What threw me is that Hockley Steet / Smith Street is now a T junction whereas in the old map it is a crossroads, so I was looking for a road that passed across, or through, Smith Street as in the photo.


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#11 by mikejee , Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:15 pm

Yes, unlike some streets, at least it did not disappear completely

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#12 by Voltman , Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:03 am

I really don't like it when streets disappear. Buildings I can accept, they need maintenance to survive, but roads would survive forever.
Some appear to have been lost to private concerns, which makes it even harder to accept.


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#13 by astoness , Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:26 am

many streets have gone now volty..most during the 60s..the street were i was born paddington st being one of the many..luckily i have managed to find old photos of it...


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#14 by astoness , Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:24 pm

1955 map showing no 103 and 4 as an engineering works...


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#15 by Voltman , Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:08 pm

Mr W B Good, Electroplater.


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