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Scotland's Independence, Yes Or No?

#1 by Sheldonboy , Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:00 am

Standard life are the first company to advise that they will pull out of Scotland if it leaves the UK.
What is your view on this subject. One of the negative reasons, is that Scotland couldn't defend itself. But the Scots know of course that if it had a serious defence issue the remains of the UK would for our own benefit have to step in. Blackmail really.


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#2 by Voltman , Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:50 am

As always, I don't care. It would be very interesting though to see what happens, if, should they fail to grow up in time, they vote yes.

I have to chuckle when the pro independence types go on about how they will interact with the "rest of the United Kingdom" after Scotland has departed.
England, Wales and NI won't be the "rest" of the UK, we will be the whole of the UK. Scotland won't be in it anymore, a fact they try to ignore as they attempt to envisage having their cake and eating it, along with everyone else's.
I also fail to see how the UK can continue to be so named, seeing as we would no longer be quite so united.

Other things that interest me include how they plan to use our pound yet will have no control of it. The Scots would be using foreign currency without the permission of the issuing country. It would be like us using Argentinian Dollars.
And, all Scottish emblems, etc, would have to be dropped from all of our money. And what about postage stamps? Would they be in the commonwealth? The Scots would have to print their own stamps with the Queen on them.
How do they propose to protect their borders? We would have to put up some sort of border barrier or continue to police their coast line, we couldn't trust them not to become a weaker spot in our already weak defence against illegal immigrants.
Would we need a passport to go to Scotland? They won't be in Europe and they won't be in the UK so they will in fact be a foreign country, passports are required for all foreign travel.
The Scots will have to come up with their own passports and surrender their UK versions.
Road Tax? Income Tax? Place of Domicile? Second Homes in another country? Power Stations? So many questionable areas. We had better not end up paying for them to deal with the problems they will cause.


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#3 by tca , Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:20 am

who said the only good to come out of scotland was the M6 or was that the only good thing to come out of wales was the M4 ????? I can never remember

they (parliament) stuffed up when they went into the common market - you are know reaping the rewards of that brilliant piece of legislation, why not just dump all the bits that hang off England and go it alone????


 
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#4 by Sheldonboy , Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:56 pm

Volty I agree with every word you say. If I was a Scot the first thing that would put me off independence is that comical looking Alex Salmond, how could anyone take anything he says seriously. For one thing the SNP say that as Scotland had a big part to play in the UK's wealth, they should have a
share of it to set them up. I say stuff them because they have cost this country loads.
But knowing our wonderful Muppet government it will probably give all Scots a Billion each. Pulling away from the UK Scotland will probably also be eligible for foreign aid.


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#5 by mikejee , Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:30 pm

A little bit over the top SB, but probably right in principal. Salmond does resemble Gordon Brown a little. but then he is Scottish as well. Salmond does have one good point though. If Scotland were to be separated from the rest, then they would never have to be subject to the slimy public school products filling the Tory party. I'm afraid that if I was Scottish i might be tempted to follow the independence path , however bad a decision it was, for that reason alone


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#6 by Cleopatra , Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:54 pm

I think the Standard Life announcement may cause everyone to think again as they employ around 5,000 and could be the start of the exodus. It is no good being independent and have no work as this will affect the economy and on it goes. I think the status quo as it is is probably the best deal. I guess we will hear everyone pro the split now claiming blackmail, but it will be like every other referendum, how much of the factual pros and cons will be forthcoming? Remember all the mis-information surrounding our joining Europe.


 
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#7 by Slow Jo , Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:58 pm

I think if scotland goes independent it will cost them dearly,when they get in trouble I hope they don't come running to us to bail them out.Independent means exactly what it say's


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#8 by The Mitz , Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:29 pm

You know that Scots people living outside Scotland, i.e. in England, cant vote in the referendum?


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#9 by Voltman , Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:28 am

That's probably fair. They might vote for selfish reasons as opposed to what they believe to be best for Scotland.


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#10 by Sheldonboy , Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:45 am

Scots outslde Scotland should have a vote. As should the rest of us, it does affect us all. The Scots have always participated in General Elections so they have had a say in what affects us. There should have been a referendum asking us all if Scotland was entitled an independence vote.


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#11 by Voltman , Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:51 am

WE are English SB.
WE don't get referendums. And you can see why, look what happened with the last one. I wouldn't trust the English to sit the right way on a toilet seat.


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#12 by Sheldonboy , Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:57 am

With the Referendum for the EEC we were Blatantly lied to. We were told that we were entering into a group of Trading Nations, no one said anything about corrupt politicians giving our country away.


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#13 by Voltman , Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:45 am

It wasn't the EEC then, it was the Common Market.
What followed was gravy trains full of subterfuge.


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