Bitter and Twisted and Negative

Volty

Right then I'll vent my spleen, if what you want is a website (I won't call it a forum) where you can make a statement that nobody can differ in opinion from then it's not the sort of website that I want to be part of. I have always thought that the idea of a forum was a site that you use to exchange views with those of differing opinions, where moderators are appointed to see that arguments do not break the laws of the country or the forum and to see that they don't get out of hand.

I would never be that conceited that I consider that my opinion is the right one and that no one should oppose it, I would point out that I would never be part of any organisation that does not allow dissention on any topic that is posted.

Phil,
This is a forum and it does invite opposing views, I also believe that any view should be stated without recourse to venom, hyperbole and unsubstantiated facts.
But there is a time and a place for debate, The starting of a thread by a member is not an automatic invite for anyone else to dive in and ruin the intention of the initiating author.

I would also point out that I am in no position to disallow anything on this forum, but in common with all our members, I do have the right to complain when I don't like what I see.

For instance, I love your threads about who and where is this. How would they go if we all came in and complained bitterly about every detail of the people and places depicted?
Well I wouldn't take part in them for a start.

Volty

You and anyone else are welcome to come on any thread that I or anyone else for that matter starts and complain about the contents as long as it is pertinent to the thread. I will then endeavour to the best of my ability to answer your complaints, but if I think it is being done just to cause upset and disharmony on the forum then I will delete it. By the same token if you or anyone else were to complain that anything written on this forum was against the rules of the forum,

Forum Rules, Please Read

Then I would delete it if I thought you were right.

On that basis Phil, there is no point in starting a thread unless you are prepared for a debate.
No point in trying to be happy about anything in this place.
I don't plan to spend my time debating pointless issues or defending innocent pleasures but I do know what to do about it in future.

I have read the forum rules and would like to point out the following rules for further attention by those who can read but don't always comprehend.

No bad language
No arguing
No provocative posts designed to cause argument.
No hostility

I'll certainly try to do better.
Voltman

Yes I would point out that it could be interpreted that you have just broken all those rules except the "bad language" rule. That's why we have (I hope) impartial moderators who interpret and apply the rules as they see them like is done on every other forum. It's not a completely fair system, but it's the best we can have. As I say if we go down the road on banning anti posts on any subject then in my opinion we are no longer a forum.

If you don't like what is posted, then just ignore it. There are many posts on this and other forums that I don't agree with and I do just that "ignore them"

Then please ignore all the posts, started by other members, that do not require a negative, hostile or opposing input. I have to do it with the political threads.
"No comment" for instance isn't really no comment, it is provocative.
I didn't respond to it, at the time, because the thread was about something that some members hold dear to their hearts and not a platform for debate about the royal family.

As administrators we should set an example. I apologise for my perceived hostility. Please note I did not name anyone.

No I'm sorry I will never ignore any thread just because the poster thinks they have a right to be unopposed, are we now living in a state that bans opposition? So when someone says "No comment" they are being provocative? Now here is me thinking how good I was not voicing my opinion straight away. If you note you will see I have separated the few congratulatory posts in the other thread and removed the bulk of the thread elsewhere.

Whatever you may think at least it has got a few posts made to the forum more than we normally would have, and that in my opinion is what forums are all about. It's no good having a forum if you keep saying you can't say that or you can't do that. As long as posters don't break the rules with malicious intent then I think that is all we can ask.

You well know that I don't say you can't say these things, I simply ask you not to poison every thread with your depressing views.

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Yes I would point out that it could be interpreted that you have just broken all those rules except the "bad language" rule. That's why we have (I hope) impartial moderators who interpret and apply the rules as they see them like is done on every other forum. It's not a completely fair system, but it's the best we can have. As I say if we go down the road on banning anti posts on any subject then in my opinion we are no longer a forum.

If you don't like what is posted, then just ignore it. There are many posts on this and other forums that I don't agree with and I do just that "ignore them"

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